If a JW makes any sort of outrageous statement, make them promise to back it up, promising a time and place when they will do it.
When they 'forget', take a Worldly audience with you when you go to remind them of their promise.
in another corner of the internet someone stated that witnesses are proclaiming that this system will be no more than 40 years now... that "gog of magog" will start the great tribulation.
can anyone confirm this latest "prediction"?.
If a JW makes any sort of outrageous statement, make them promise to back it up, promising a time and place when they will do it.
When they 'forget', take a Worldly audience with you when you go to remind them of their promise.
january 29th - my baptism date.
can you remember how you felt at your baptism?.
i got baptised because my dad kept frightening me.
I'm about your age, Phoebe, so got the same lecture from my Dad, but I knew that the Ancient Worthies hadn't shown up in 1925 so their track record wasn't squeaky clean. I also knew that leaving without getting shunned was unlikely so baptism didn't look all that inviting.
Deciding to get baptised was the best decision I never made. I'm not shunned by any JW family members. Relationships are stunted and are not what they should be and I'm careful what I say around them but, because I'm unbaptised, I do have some semblance of a normal relationship with my JW family and old JW friends even though I haven't been in a KH except for weddings and funerals since the 1975 debacle.
have you ever heard of a jw minor getting disfellowshipped and their parents then throwing them out of home?
i know of 1, 14yr old, df'd for smoking and the very same night it was annoced his mother kicked him out of the family home on to the streets!.
unsurprisingly as an adult he's never returned to his mother or the wt .
Any Dub who does that has gone beyond what is written in their litteratrash and should be challenged to provide official WT documentation that supports their actions.
do people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?
are they now infrequent lurkers?.
did they go back to the watchtower?.
There have a been a few Kiwis here that I sometimes wonder what happened to, but I don't spend much time here myself either.
so a friend today asked me what his deal is and i honestly don't know.
i saw someone post about his accusations that the doj is investigating watchtower and people seemed down on the guy, as well has johnny the bethelite or whatever his name is that claims to leak stuff.
i don't know rick fearon, don't watch his show, but his site just seems a little crazy, and he seems to get into occult conspiracies and the jws, which never lends credibility.. so for those of you who have been around a while, what's the deal?
I've always thought that there is a better than even chance that RF and JTB have been funded by the WTBTS. The only other explanation for their behavior that I can think of is that they are complete nut jobs.
does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.
i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.
for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.
If you have been born or sucked into a cult, everything you inherited from it is suspect, Gods, reference materials, science, the whole lot. You have to cut it off at the roots and start over, admitting to yourself that everything that came from its quoted source material could be tainted, even if it did 'tickle your ears' at the time. Trying to hang onto the bits that you liked could lead you into being sucked into another cult, in which case, you may as well have stuck with the one your friends and family are in.
does anyone else remember a brochure/ magazine from the early 80s with stories of demon possessed individuals and spiritism ?
i dont think i saw it around very long.
it had a story about some lady having her head snapped around by a demon.
The most insane story I heard as a kid, I heard first hand from a JW convert who's wife had bought a souvenir imitation shrunken head in New Guinea in the sixties. I'm not going to perpetuate his nonsense story by retelling it.
hi guys, i have been summoned to a judicial committee for apostasy.
i'm going to disassociate anyway but i don't want to miss the fun .i'm thinking of handing my letter of dissociation on the night of the committee.do you think this is a good idea?.
as i said i have already made my mind up.
If you want to be able to have sensible conversations with friends or family members of the cult, you have to do it while you are still not 'marked' as Apostate or DA, so both classifications should be avoided,
a circuit overseer or a member of the gibbering body is giving a talk about demonism and he says the following, "there was an elder in a congregation in california who let his 8-year-old daughter watch disney movies that involved witches, gremlins, magic, and sorcery.
many may feel that they are harmless movies and are just entertainment.
well, the 8-year-old daughter actually brought a blue smurf doll to the public talk and watchtower study.
Here is the earlier thread I alluded to.
a circuit overseer or a member of the gibbering body is giving a talk about demonism and he says the following, "there was an elder in a congregation in california who let his 8-year-old daughter watch disney movies that involved witches, gremlins, magic, and sorcery.
many may feel that they are harmless movies and are just entertainment.
well, the 8-year-old daughter actually brought a blue smurf doll to the public talk and watchtower study.
If you search the forum, you should be able to find a thread discussing the origin of this ridiculous episode of JW history that I remember from my childhood. Something to do with a supposedly haunted Toys“R”Us store if I remember correctly.